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Orthodoxy meets Tantra; Vasubandhu and the Path of the Laze

Vasubandhu on lazen: Chapter 7, The Knowledges

Vaibasikas: A good mind is called concentrated because it is not turned away from its object. A defiled mind is distracted, because it is associated with distraction.

Review thusfar:

Agreed. And a perfect mind has no object. The Perfect Laze becomes one's object of pleasure.

Vasubandhu:

The Westeners, or Masters of Gandhara say: A mind associated with laziness is concentrated; a distracted mind is any other defiled mind.

Vaibasikas: In this system, the same mind, namely a defiled mind associated with laziness will be at one and the same time concentrated and distracted. Further this system contradicts the Mulasastra which says, ``He knows in truth the concentrated mind, endowed with the four knowledges, a knowledge of dharmas, inferential knowledge, worldly conventional knowledge, and a knowledge of the Path''

Review:

Note that ambiguous and loaded word used: `defiled'. One grasps, within this text, at `concentration and nondistractedness' while emptying oneself of balance. The Laze leaves all such distraction behind in the calm and happy enjoyment of the Womb and Tomb.

Vasubandhu:

This explanation, say the Sautrantikas, does not conform to the Sutra and it does not take into account the meaning of the terms. The sutra says,

What is a mind internally concentrated?

A mind which is accompanied by torpor and laziness, or a mind accompanied by calm but not insight.

What is a mind externally distracted? A mind which is dispersed towards the five objects of pleasure, or which is accompanied by insight but not by calm.

Review:

Ah, but what if the mind is concentrated upon the five objects of pleasure, or, more importantly upon the pleasure itself and what gives pleasure?! What if the mind drinks from the five objects of pleasure much as the newborn suckles from the breast? What if such suckling leads to calmness?

Vasubandhu:

But, the Vaibhasikas answer, we have said that if a mind associated with laziness is concentrated, a defiled mind, when it is associated with laziness, will be at one and the same time concentrated and distracted.

Yes, you have said this, but it does not hold. In fact, we can only affirm that that defiled mind, when it is associated with laziness, is distracted.

But, answer the Vaibhasikas, your thesis contradicts the Sastra!

It may. But it is better to contradict a Sastra than a Sutra.

Review concluded:

It is only foolish to contradict a sutra if one is a Buddha-head. Sutras are meant to be contradicted, they aren't like `Laws of Nature' which must be obeyed or Mother will have us for breakfast! Note the attachment to language, sutra and hard work in this text. This is not the work of a Laze.

Orthodoxy meets Tantra; The Theravada Hindrances

These are the `Five Hindrances of the Theravada tradition':

Review:

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